tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post6962270715415676278..comments2023-06-11T13:18:29.312+03:00Comments on Istanbul Calling: Borderline NationalismYigal Schleiferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04037852103478967102noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-43754177525351352532009-05-31T13:10:03.965+03:002009-05-31T13:10:03.965+03:00Dear Hans,
i believe you are a victim of the extr...Dear Hans,<br /><br />i believe you are a victim of the extreme disinformation turkey has been suffering for a very long time, because it turns out that turkish army is capable of removing the mines. <br /><br />this is not a matter of militarist action, this is a matter of political will and thats where lots of fishy things are going on. <br /><br />well, i told it already, in order to solve a problem we should properly define it first.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125050042830397524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-2869159645855997722009-05-30T13:36:05.604+03:002009-05-30T13:36:05.604+03:00Dear JL,
I only know that the Turkish armed forces...Dear JL,<br />I only know that the Turkish armed forces are not equiped with the right tools.<br />More important: Turkey signed the Ottowa mine treaty in 2004 and had the borders be cleared of mines by 2008. Of the appr. 1.000.000 mines only appr. 1.000 are removed.<br />Serbia haad more than 1.4 million mines in 2004, and all were removed by 2004. Turkey is in breach of another treaty, and doesn't have the time and luxury to sit down and watch how many more people are killed by mines; Turks, Kurds, militairy forces etc.<br />Regarding the nationalistic rhetoric, I leave it there.)<br />kindest<br />hansInternation Musinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693858277179002967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-76217767387215586012009-05-26T13:42:18.962+03:002009-05-26T13:42:18.962+03:00Well Yigal, then i guess it is your bad then becau...Well Yigal, then i guess it is your bad then because i heard CHP critizing the legislation on behalf of the landless farmers. ok, i cannot talk for MHP, i dont really follow them, but this is absolutely not the case for CHP. <br /><br />linking demining with aggriculture is of course valid. after all, those lands are supposed to be very fertile and it would be very unwise not to use them. but howevever, my question was regarding the demining companies. i mean, if they are going to clean it for a price, thats ok, but asking the lands for 44 years..? come on, does really make sense to you? <br /><br />dear hans, with all my respect, your answer does not seem to contribute anything to the discussion. you only say the obvious but dont exactly say what you think about it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125050042830397524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-83623847558374379362009-05-26T12:40:58.403+03:002009-05-26T12:40:58.403+03:00Thanks for the comment, Jedilost. First of all, th...Thanks for the comment, Jedilost. First of all, there would be a security zone established along the border as part of the demining, so it's hard to think of this as something compromises Turkey's (or Syria's) security. I think the question of if the demining should be linked to agriculture is a valid one, but that's not what seems to be bothering the MHP and CHP. Likewise, the question of whether this land should be given to the landless in the region is also an important one. Again, I haven't heard the MHP or CHP criticize the mine clearing legislation along these lines.Yigal Schleiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04037852103478967102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-91619413301192522142009-05-26T01:45:18.860+03:002009-05-26T01:45:18.860+03:00Love the heading.))
Jedlost; looks like there are ...Love the heading.))<br />Jedlost; looks like there are no Turkish professioanl companies who can do this. In the mean while these land mines are still there...<br />kindest<br />hansInternation Musinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693858277179002967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-507020819391911738.post-37467037095434735422009-05-23T15:35:55.092+03:002009-05-23T15:35:55.092+03:00i think you are completely on the wrong track to l...i think you are completely on the wrong track to link this issue with nationalist reflexes or even worse a political struggle between AKP and the opposition. <br /><br />beside the fact that there is no sense in trying to link the demining process with aggriculture, the magnitude and the location of the mined lands are too critical to entrust to a third party. and even if these lands are indeed decided to be used for aggricultural purposes, there are tens of thousands of landless farmers in turkey who can benefit from those lands if a clever policy is managed. <br /><br />the demining job can be handed over to a professional company, but just like in every transaction, the price is supposed to be reasonable. and if you think it is overpriced, you simply dont buy it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125050042830397524noreply@blogger.com